Small Crowd Protests Obama Visit to MontCo

About three dozen people lined Bethlehem Pike in Hatfield Friday.

Holding signs that read "Hey middle class, they are coming for your $ next," and "Taxing the rich hurts everyone," a group of about three dozen people protested President Barack Obama's visit to Hatfield Friday morning.

The protestors gathered in the vacant lot of a closed down gas station near the intersection of Bethlehem Pike and Unionville Road in Hatfield, waving signs and garnering the occasional honk in return.

"This isn't really about Democrats or Republicans, it's about the fiscal policies and that we don't like where President Obama is taking this country," said Steve Piotrowski, chair of the Norristown-based Citizens for Liberty and organizer of the protest. "I personally would like to see Obamacare repealed, along with the National Defense Authorization Act [and the] Patriot Act."

Several protestors had similar viewpoints, saying that they didn't view federal policy so much as a partisan issue, as a case of runaway spending.

"If I would have made a sign, it would have read "It's the Spending Stupid,'" said Bill Brosky, of Hatfield. "We don't have a revenue problem, we have a spending problem, and I want financial responsibility. I had a problem with [former President] Bush too, since he spent like a Democrat."

However, there was no love lost among many of the protestors for President Obama. Barbara Walters, chairman of the Lehigh Valley Tea Party group with no relation to the famous news anchor, said she drove from Emmaus with her husband Jim to join the protest.

"We're here to let Obama know we want him to change his plans," Walters said. "I would like him to stop all the regulations on small companies, and I don't want him to raise taxes on those people who make over $250,000, because a lot of those are small business owners."

Many of the protesters were unanimous in wanting to see the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, commonly known as Obamacare, repealed.

Robert B. Sklaroff, M.D. December 08, 2012 at 09:54 AM
@ “JF” - III I win, you lose. I win, you lose. I win, you lose. Finally, of course kids can be encouraged to resolve matters internally, but they cannot be depended upon to have the maturity to achieve this end routinely; that's why the authority figures EXPECT to be invoked in ALL cases [regardless of whatever circumstances that might have existed], notwithstanding your repeated-claim that you could envision [unspecified] circumstances when it would not be OK for reporting. Through it all, it matters not that you claim to be a school-teacher and I'm a physician; perhaps you need to take MORE courses before you again type on this topic publicly. [BTW, Bush never said "Mission Accomplished"; it was on a banner that had been hung behind him on the battleship on which he spoke of the fall of Saddam. * To recapitulate this précis: 1. The government forces the school district to ensure students are EXPECTED to report bullying-incidents. 2. There is no mention of automatic punishment ["simply because a committee meeting is to be held," per one of your more mundane zingers]. 3. There is no mention of cow-towing to parental influence [on either side]. 4. There is no reliance upon students to resolve matters between/among themselves. Q.E.D. That's why.... I win, you lose. I win, you lose. I win, you lose.
Joseph Finnick December 08, 2012 at 01:37 PM
So, you abandoned your arguments, got it. You also found on the same page one that said "encourage." You are using the exception to prove the rule, this is a fallacy. Bystanders weren't who we were talking about. Real question, is would you? That is the only way you can force them to report. I don't attack it. In fact I am saying YOU are assuming poor journalism with your interpretation. Relates to what was said before, meaning not all should be reported. Perhaps you need to take a single course before you talk about it. His people should have known about the banner, poor management was displayed. I'm not going to bother to recap as I assume you can read (maybe incorrectly).
Robert B. Sklaroff, M.D. December 08, 2012 at 01:43 PM
After a creature is mortally wounded, sometimes the body twitches prior to becoming lifeless. http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20081104092707AAwJk6M What are the different ways people are murdered in the SE7EN film? 1. One guy was forced to eat until his stomach burst (Gluttony) 2. One guy was bled to death (Greed) 3. One guy was immobilized on a bed and died from malnurishment (Sloth) 4. A woman is killed when a guy is forced to have intercourse with her with a strap-on that has a knife attached (Lust) 5. A Woman overdoses on sleeping pills, after choosing not to live with her nose cut off (Pride) 6. Doe is killed because because he was guilty of envy (envying and killing Mill's pregnant wife) 7. And Mills then becomes wrath
Joseph Finnick December 08, 2012 at 08:50 PM
Thanks for giving up Bobby! Love you too!
Robert B. Sklaroff, M.D. December 08, 2012 at 09:39 PM
After having defeated you, and having noted your lame attempt to play the computer-game of "Psychiatrist" [whereby a blind reorganization of the prior text is employed to provide a response...so that the subject remains engaged in pseudo-"conversation"], there is nothing more to add; the danger you encountered was generating nonsense-sentences...which increasingly dominated. The aggregate of "non-sequitur" reactions is so disjointed that they can't be usefully parsed, beyond what had already been articulated. I didn't abandon my arguments at all...it matters not if "encourage" is used in other contexts if the mandate from the school is to "expect" behavior without qualification...the relevant sentence encompassed both the victim and/or bystanders...your "real question" is tangential/obscure...you [not I] raised concern regarding journalistic talents [to avoid dealing with what had been stated/quoted]...depending upon kids to resolve matters can allow problems to fester...you need to take a rudimentary course on bullying [noting how very incorrect you have been, so persistently]...the Bush-reference was played-up by the leftist-media...and, noting the prior distillations, there is no further need to re-cap. I will preserve this hyperlink if ever again you emerge in "conversation" on Patch, for no one else would be better equipped to chase-down your emanations...and others should be warned against dealing with your "Tar Baby" mien.
Joseph Finnick December 08, 2012 at 10:34 PM
So you congratulate yourself without actually reading what I write and you think you "win?" I don't think you know how this works. You cannot decide yourself a "winner" off of a dubious source and even through use of just semantics. Semantics and dubious sourcing are the two worst ways to debate. I hope you do save this as a testament to your own childishness to stop you from behaving this way in the future. You should also rethink using the "Tar Baby" term. I know that the roots aren't racist, but in modern times it has been interpreted that way, which might get you into some trouble later on.
Joseph Finnick December 08, 2012 at 10:47 PM
Oh, and thanks for giving up Bobby. I'm going to miss you too! Can we cuddle after next time?
Robert B. Sklaroff, M.D. December 09, 2012 at 06:30 AM
@ "JF": I read and pulverized your writings, declaring victory only thereafter. You dispute my claim, but neglect to have the capacity to undo your primrose path to utter, irreversible destruction.
Robert B. Sklaroff, M.D. December 09, 2012 at 06:31 AM
@ "JF": ""O, what a tangled web we weave when we practice to deceive."" http://www.reference.com/motif/arts/shakespeare-oh-what-a-tangled-web-we-weave
Joseph Finnick December 09, 2012 at 12:54 PM
How does a suggested policy on bullying that a) contradicts itself later on and b) uses the word "expects" instead of any sort of mandated word as you would have it "pulverize" my writings? Once again, you rely on semantics and a dubious source to refute one claim out of many, then declare victory. Nice try, but no cigar.
Joseph Finnick December 09, 2012 at 12:56 PM
Did you have to look up that quote because you didn't know who wrote it? Congratulations on becoming a little more worldly. Now you should learn how to debate. Oh, and thanks for giving up Bobby! You never answered about the cuddling!
Robert B. Sklaroff, M.D. December 09, 2012 at 01:00 PM
"If the shoe fits...."
Robert B. Sklaroff, M.D. December 09, 2012 at 01:03 PM
There is no contradiction in this policy; indeed, it uses "expectation"-lingo twice, lest there be no ambiguity [or the capacity to claim this document constitutes a "mixed bag"]: "The _____________ School District expects students and/or staff to immediately report incidents of bullying to the principal or designee." "Students are expected to immediately report incidents of bullying to the principal or designee." This specifically applies to the scenario you had sketched [when the event was unwitnessed]. Keep digging, and you may soon encounter Australia.
Joseph Finnick December 09, 2012 at 03:35 PM
It also uses the encourages lingo, which you still ignore. They are sample policies that schools in California CAN use. You still have yet to even show why I should take this source seriously anyway, really making this a moot discussion.
Joseph Finnick December 09, 2012 at 03:36 PM
So you do want to cuddle? I call big spoon!
Robert B. Sklaroff, M.D. December 09, 2012 at 03:46 PM
The only way you could conclude there to have been a true contradiction would be if either of these quotes appeared elsewhere, which you cannot find: "The _____________ School District ENCOURAGEs students and/or staff to immediately report incidents of bullying to the principal or designee, but it is not EXPECTED." "Students areENCOURAGed to immediately report incidents of bullying to the principal or designee, but it is not EXPECTED." This specifically applies to the scenario you had sketched [when the event was unwitnessed], and it reflects input from an authoritative/public source where such policy has been implemented. How hot is it in the earth's core, as you continue enlarging your grave [mixing metaphors]?
Joseph Finnick December 09, 2012 at 04:52 PM
You are trying to use omission of a small phrase in sample codes of conduct as supporting your side. Seems pretty petty, even for you. The word encourages implies that it is not expected. Only you would need things spelled out so blatantly. Also, you still have yet to say why this is a not a dubious source, as I have stated over and over again. By your logic, your omission of this argument would mean I am correct and this discussion has been worthless (as I have said many times).
Robert B. Sklaroff, M.D. December 09, 2012 at 04:57 PM
Far from being "dubious," this is an on-the-ground, reality-based resource...which of course contrasts with you having provided nothing to counterbalance its specificity. You claim "The word encourages implies that it is not expected" and, thus, admit that you are conjuring an "implication" that cannot be "inferred" directly from the sentence; thus, it is hardly "petty" to reject your conjurings. Your "blatant" disregard for plain-language suggests that your excavation exercise is rapidly approaching Australia.
Joseph Finnick December 09, 2012 at 05:17 PM
Tell me how it is an on the ground reality based source. Also, you basically just said, "NUH UH" to everything else.
Robert B. Sklaroff, M.D. December 09, 2012 at 05:20 PM
This does not merely restate academic analysis; this is implemented policy. "Ya can't beat sumptin' with nuttin'!" You must now unearth an article that exposes any alleged flaws in this policy-statement, or admit its import.
Joseph Finnick December 09, 2012 at 05:52 PM
Not implemented. Sample policies that schools can use. Wanna change your argument yet?
Feodor Tiorlenko December 09, 2012 at 05:52 PM
Delusional pro-Romneyites. We had the election. All your pat phrases are irrelevant. This isn't the old white man's America anymore. Battling the "lamestream media" by making up your own facts. Like Karl Rove until 11:00 p.m. election night trying to convince everyone that the polls were wrong. A black man is president of the United States, duly elected and then re-elected. Get over it.
Robert B. Sklaroff, M.D. December 09, 2012 at 06:13 PM
Not only have these policies been implemented, but the State's Dept. of Education has produced numerous brochures to facilitate this process: http://www.cde.ca.gov/ls/ss/se/bullyres.asp In addition to such titles as "see something, do something" sprinkled within this listing, there is one that carries particular import, illustrating the theme of the others: "Bullying hurts, and keeps on hurting; most bullying goes unnoticed and unreported. Bullying is one of the most underrated and enduring problems in schools today and is a reality in the lives of all children, whether they are bullies, victims or witnesses. School is a prime location for bullying. Teachers, students, support staff, parents and administrators need to work as a team to take action against bullying." http://www.bullybeware.com/ There's nothing discretionary here!
Joseph Finnick December 09, 2012 at 06:16 PM
Once again, those were samples and you provided no proof they are used in any school. Please do. The other sources in no way state that reporting should be mandatory. Please stop setting up a straw man here.
Joseph Finnick December 09, 2012 at 06:46 PM
To clarify my statement about the straw man: Stop setting up that I claim bystanders shouldn't report and that teachers shouldn't encourage reporting. I encourage reporting, but I recognize that there may be certain cases where the student may have the skill set to constructively settle the conflict or where the student may not be able to report without the possibility of further harm coming to them. This therefore informs my support for plans that encourage reporting, while not making it mandatory, especially for the target of bullying.
michael mirra January 19, 2013 at 02:33 AM
I second that "you're welcome" & so does middle class America who now can lose their jobs & not lose their health care, are no longer in the insurance hell of pre existing conditions, still have a job thanks to Obama bringing the economy back to no longer at the brink of the depression Republican economics led us to. General Motors is alive & Osama Bin Ladin Dead. Obama now is making America safe from gun toting crazies. Yes, you are more than welcome for thanking us for voting for Barack. We don't really need thanks. Having Obama at the helm is reward enough.
michael mirra January 19, 2013 at 02:41 AM
wheezer96 thinks Obama is an idiot, surrounded by morons. Those "morons" & the 'Idiot' made the big business manager Romney & his team of business genious advisors look sick by totally out managing the campaign in all the swing states. That is one smart 'community organizer'. If Obama is so stupid, how come all the best Conservative minds have been working, with extreme motivation, to defeat him for over 4 years now, & with a super motivated base,& he still beat you? You people can't even prove he's a Kenyan. LOL
Liberty Belle January 19, 2013 at 11:41 AM
You don't understand the hate for the man who has stood up to one podium after another condemning and even mocking anyone who opposes him? No other President in History has ever showed total disgust for the opposing party like he does or has shown such disrespect for Israels, Netanyahu and our Constitution. He constantly pits one group against the other, black and white, rich and poor, Dems and Republicans .We are not a people to him but different groups that he so intends on keeping apart, After all he must shore up the numbers of the black and poor for future votes. He is a despicable hate filled man, rejected by both of his parents, he has some serious mental issues.
Liberty Belle January 19, 2013 at 11:46 AM
So you saw 'rude' people protesting and you gave them the finger? Not a very bright star, are you ? Take a look at yourself, meet rude.
Liberty Belle January 19, 2013 at 11:47 AM
This is America. We protest. Sticking your finger up rude.


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