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Does Pa. Need A 'Bradley Fox Act?'

Would stronger gun laws have prevented the Plymouth Township policeman's death?

 

Does the September shooting death of Plymouth Township Police Officer Bradley Fox — apparently at the hands of a convicted felon who illicitly obtained legally-purchased firearms through a third party — demonstrate the need for tougher gun purchase laws in Pennsylvania?

In an editorial published Monday, the Philadelphia Inquirer argued that it does.

In calling on state legislators to pass a "Bradley Fox Act" that would place limits on firearm purchases and criminalize the failure to report a lost or stolen gun, the newspaper said Fox's killing "exposes the true cost of Harrisburg's refusal to pass even modest gun control measures."

Vote in the poll below and tell us what you think in the comments.

  • Should Pa. enact a "Bradley Fox Act" to further limit convicted felons' ability to obtain firearms?

    (Voting has been closed for this question)
    • Yes
        19 (55%)
    • No
        13 (38%)
    • I'm undecided. I'll explain in the comments.
        2 (5%)
    Total votes: 34
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Brandon Paul

5:20 pm on Monday, October 15, 2012

the gun was bought and passed along illegally so making it a crime to not report lost or stolen fire arms would not have changed anything. Also limiting the number of fire arm purchaces doesn't matter because it only takes one. There is no way around the fact that some people are bad and are going to do bad things. the only fool proof way to stop the needless murder of police officers is to stop chasing criminals but we sure as hell are not going to do that.

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Stephen Eickhoff

11:14 am on Tuesday, October 16, 2012

Exactly. It's strange that whenever a tragedy like this happens, the gun control crowd offers solutions that simply wouldn't serve to do anything but restrict the rights of the law-abiding citizen.

Jonathan David Herman

5:46 pm on Monday, October 15, 2012

not reporting a lost or stolen firearm is already illegal, straw purchases are already illegal the gun laws we have work rather well when they're enforced and more than 90 percent of all gun crimes occur with illegally obtained firearms so restraining those who legally purchase firearms isn't going to help the situation at all except to make it harder for those of us who legitimately wish to protect ourselves and our families or just enjoy collecting and shooting firearms to do so.

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John Q. Public

6:08 pm on Monday, October 15, 2012

It's my understanding that the proposed change was to make it possible for longer jail terms for those who buy multiple guns for straw purchases. The NRA has no problem with harsher punishment for straw purchasers, and neither do I.

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Jack Minster

7:57 pm on Monday, October 15, 2012

Heroin is also illegal and lethal, but unlike illegal guns which trade illegally on a relatively tiny scale, the heroin market involves billions of dollars and we taxpayers fund large government agencies devoted to battling it. And yet, if one wants to purchase heroin, it's not that difficult. The UK outright banned all guns and yet, guns still get in there. Violent gun crimes still occur in England; there, law-abiding citizens are rendered completely defenseless. Criminals act with greater vigor knowing this. If all US legal gun owners join and support the NRA to fight these legal battles on their behalf - the incessant barrage of ill-conceived laws like Bradley Fox - Americans will be safer for it. If you own a gun, you really do have an obligation to join the NRA.

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patrick

8:40 pm on Monday, October 15, 2012

Jack, I own guns and believe in the second admendment, but the NRA is out of control. The organization lies repeadily and HURTS gun owners with thier bizarre interpretation of the laws. Guns-yes, NRA- no

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Marc L.

8:06 am on Tuesday, October 16, 2012

I agree with Patrick on this. I'm a proud gun owner and a responsible one at that. But I think that the NRA has far too much power and forces politicians to avoid passing so many laws that make sense. I'm usually on the opposite side of a lot of the NRA's battles, but I appreciate that they support my right to own a gun.

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John Q. Public

8:53 am on Tuesday, October 16, 2012

Jack, agreed. Responsible gun owners will not be owners for long if the NRA was not there to defend their rights. Without the NRA, individual owners are powerless to withstand the onslaught of the media and the many well-financed, politically-connected, highly organized groups, whose sole reason for existence is to ban, or greatly restrict, your private ownership. I am neither proud nor shamed of my guns, reloading or collecting, but enjoy all those activities, and occasional hunting. I appreciate that ONLY the NRA stands between gun confiscation or ownership.

Brian Nagele

8:33 pm on Monday, October 15, 2012

The only thing new laws will do is make more criminals. Nothing more.

People who are criminals, by definition, break the law. More laws put more burdens on those who follow them - criminals couldn't care less.

I'm tired of these kinds of arguments. If the laws change, I'll happily ignore them and join the ranks of the criminals. They live easier lives since they don't have to jump through new hoops all the time just to make a purchase.

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jay kerr

9:23 pm on Monday, October 15, 2012

This talk makes me mad as hell! the only thing gun control will do is make us the next Holocaust victims! This is NOT fear mongering, look at history of gun control/confiscation in EVERY Country. When we outlaw guns, only the outlaws will have guns!

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Joe Catagnus

9:37 pm on Monday, October 15, 2012

The question is how does the state allowed 9 firearms to be sold to one person in 16 month period. Background checks are done on every gun transferred. A big red flag the size of Texas should have been raised. You can’t stop firearms from getting into the hands of criminals but you and make the punishments worse on them when they do get caught.

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Jack Minster

9:49 pm on Monday, October 15, 2012

If I buy one gun per month because I enjoy collecting and shooting guns and legally reselling them when I tire of them, or buy 2 guns per month or 4 and obey all laws and pay the $25 state fee each time, what is that to you, Joe? Whom am I hurting?

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Joe Catagnus

10:19 pm on Monday, October 15, 2012

I am a gun owner too. I also know that the guns obtained by criminals are also stolen. What I am getting at is the state should audit somehow when purchases are made in a short period of time. You just said you buy them get sick of them and sell them. You have a paper trail of where that gun is then your doing it leagal.

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John Q. Public

9:07 am on Tuesday, October 16, 2012

There's been months when I've bought multiple guns, and years when I haven't bought any. I try to buy when on sale or when I locate a specific firearm(s) I've been looking for, before someone else does, or the price goes up. Restricting sales based on time is not in my best interests.

James G

10:19 pm on Monday, October 15, 2012

Crimanls like that need to be chased by a drone. Furthermore our US Government is the biggest supplier of firearms to rebels and cartels that in turn get used on innocent people to the point of genocide!! just putting that out there.

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10:50 pm on Monday, October 15, 2012

Officer Fox was killed by a gun bought legally, sold (knowingly) illegally. Try to stop that from happening would not be an easy task.

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Ann Hankins

11:31 pm on Monday, October 15, 2012

Again, someone is killed by a gun and it's all about restricting gun purchases. PLEASE!, if you're going to jump on the " ban guns so no one gets killed" bandwagon first take the time to look up overall homicides related to guns vs other means. You are more likely to be beaten to death or stabbed. " tougher gun laws".. imply' s just that.a LAW..you know, those pesky little things the criminal element doesn't follow to begin with........

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Lori

8:34 am on Tuesday, October 16, 2012

The problem with laws is that law abiding citizens are the ONLY PEOPLE THAT FOLLOW THEM

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Lori

8:41 am on Tuesday, October 16, 2012

Sadly , Brad Fox was only doing his job, attempting to apprehend a hit and run driver, he would have no way of knowing that he was chasing a known crazy person that had intent to kill a cop…it wasn't a drug bust, or a crime ring bust gone wrong…I'm happy in one way that the sorry S.O.B. killed himself, so he doesn't cost me any money housing him or giving him his 'day in court' but seriously pissed in another way that he got out of paying for what he did publicly…he doesn't have to look into Brad's wife's or family's eyes, he doesn't have to witness or feel the pain and anguish he brought onto that family, the cowardly bastard that he was. I guess it's a good thing as I hear cop killers are treated as heros in prison, and the only hero in the story here is Brad Fox, a true HERO in every sense of the word. My heart is still broken for his wife, children, family and friends. RIP Brad Fox

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Kate Harper

10:55 am on Tuesday, October 16, 2012

Kudos to Montgomery County DA Risa Vetri Ferman for prosecuting the gun trafficker. More such prosecutions would deter people from buying guns for felons who are not able to buy them

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Stephen Eickhoff

11:21 am on Tuesday, October 16, 2012

I agree. The straw purchaser laws are relatively new and have not been put to the test. As the word gets out, potential criminals are going to see the gun black market as far too risky.

truthsayer

12:52 pm on Tuesday, October 16, 2012

I read the editorial, and fail to see how any of the proposed legislative ideas would have prevented the murder of Ofc. Fox. I don't necessarily oppose the proposed legislation, but I don't see where any of this could have prevented the killing of the officer, and to use his name as a vehicle to promote such legislation is opportunistic by the media.
Ms. McKeown said Ofc. Fox would have no idea that he was pursuing a crazy person, however, a police officer must remain vigilant at all times. Anyone has the potential to be a threat, and in today's society, the threats are growing in numbers. So is this a gun law issue? or is it a training issue that needs to be addressed by law enforcement?
Officer Fox was trained by the Philadelphia police K-9 training program. Berks county Sheriff's deputy, Kyle Pagerly, was also a graduate of the Philly program. Both officers were killed by gunmen, when both were without cover or immediate backup, and both were victims of an ambush. (Ofc. Fox ran after the subject on his own and Deputy Pagerly outran his fellow officers in an attempt to track down the subject). Is it a coincidence that both men made the same tactical error? or was something lacking in their training?
These are the sort of assessments that must be made, in order to learn from the past, and give public safety personnel the best opportunity to be safe in their jobs. But rather than deal with reality, many would just rather politicize this man's death.

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